Rebuilding Place in the Urban Space

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Wednesday, April 06, 2022

Necessity as the mother of invention: Housing at once single use shopping malls

Here and there across the country, there have been over the years the addition of housing to shopping centers, not usually directly connected, but perhaps on out parcels.

Shopping malls initiated the concept of single use land use development.  Whereas downtown and secondary commercial districts had been mixed use including civic and nonprofit uses as well as housing (on the outskirts), shopping malls were devoted only to retail.

Just before the 2008 crash, Melvin Simon Associates, a leading shopping mall company, promoted the concept of "Alls," adding housing and other functions to shopping mall campuses, but the program sputtered as a result of the recession.

-- "LIVE.WORK. PLAY.STAY.SHOP. | Building the Shopping Destinations of the Future"

Since then, as retailers have gone out of business, many shopping centers are redeveloping mall space for all kinds of uses, from fitness centers to medical clinics to offices.  These efforts do succeed as real estate ventures, but at the expense of the success of the remaining retailers, because the new uses aren't great at generating retail customers.  OTOH, these ventures make the properties more resilient, and may generate more tax revenue for localities.

-- "Adding other uses turns retail centers into communities," Shopping Centers Today

Housing proposed at Plymouth Meeting Mall.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reports ("Philly’s biggest mall owner wants to build thousands of apartments on its properties to help pay its debts") that one of that area's large regional real estate players wants to add housing to its sites to generate more revenue, which it needs to pay off its debts.

I remember the decades of struggles, working on urban revitalization in DC, to try to get property owners and/or large retailers (like supermarkets) to be innovative, to consider alternatives to their standard business models.

Mostly, it was a failure, because the businesses had little reason to accept challenges to how they did things, they were satisfied with how they were operating.

A couple exceptions, although they did it on their own, were Federal Realty, which developed Bethesda Row (ULI Case Study, "Why are people so damn good about asking the wrong question?," 2006) in Montgomery County Maryland, and Edens, a shopping center owner based in the Southeast that bought a goodly amount of the Union Market district, and then began changing their approach to retail and property development, adopting a mixed use, urban-centric business model.

Federal Realty waxes and wanes.  They've developed similar and much bigger projects in places like Boston and San Jose, but at the same time mixed use projects cost more to develop and are more risky, so they sometimes refocus on traditional suburban strip centers, anchored by grocery stores.  While Edens has projects all over the country now that are "urban," such as Denver ("The Future of Retail is Coming to RiNo," Denver Business Journal) when before they were only into suburban single use malls.

It's interesting to see that at times, financial exigency can spark innovation.

It's rare though, because in general people and organizations aren't good at making decisions, and trying times make it even more difficult to be innovative.

It's even rarer in government.

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At 8:45 AM, Anonymous charlie said...

I don't think it is such much being good at making decisions, but it is very hard for any organization to pivot. 90% of pivots fail.


The old post -- "Why are people so damn good about asking the wrong question? (reprint from 1/23/2006)" have really held up well but the links have rotten away.

I'm trying to think of post 2007 developments in DC that really add value to the urban experience. City Center unfortunately not. Navy Yard/Stadium area probably yes. H St? As you said Union Market.





 
At 10:00 AM, Blogger Richard Layman said...

Hmm. I could go back in and try to fix, and reprint. In the early days, I didn't always use the best links, so sometimes they're not recoverable through archive.org.

These days I have bad network connections and I haven't isolated it yet to the computer or the network. One more test. But sometimes even with an ethernet connection it's flaky.

Anyway, I think the waterside of The Wharf adds value. Of course, with Captain White's gone, it might have lost some verve. I was there in July 2019, after doing the Eastern Market study bid presentation and so I wanted to compare it and the Alexandria waterfront. It was a beautiful day and it was super hopping.

Do you like the new library?

H Street? I haven't seen the build out at 8th and H. Compared to 2000, I'd say yes, huge value added. But at the cost of some homogeneity. Otoh, a Whole Foods definitely was unimaginable in 2000! He'll, in the early 2000s, the recruitment of the P Street WF was seen as a nationally relevant win for cities. Main Street did a workshop on it. The first new business on H Street after the creation of Main Street and the city revitalization plan was a Family Dollar!

I gather Petworth, especially Upshur Street has been hurt by covid.

What happened there and in Columbia Heights is that the Metro attracted new larger scale development while also supporting the resuscitation of independent retail a bit further away (I did write about it).

The problem is that DC never planned for a second phase of improvement, in both places. Nor design guidelines for infill and what we might call refill. And covid dashed a lot of independents. A lot of capital destruction. (Not the Timber Pizza people, they have Jeff Zuents as an investor.)

But speaking of second phases, my 2011 piece on public space and layering holds up well too. DC hasn't invested in programming and managing spaces like Columbia Heights Plaza. (And the group managing multiple Main Streets, I'm not impressed.)

I am two years late, finally reading Learning From Bryant Park, to write about, but also for "my park," Sugar House, highly visible and accessible, 110 acres.

It doesn't do its own programming. Instead there are hundreds of private and public events, from bike races to the state cross country meet.

But I want us to do a handful of signature/anchor events for positioning and branding, in part to better communicate the story for funding capital improvements.

(The park is owned jointly by the city and county, but run by the Land Trust, and in Salt Lake City, so that even though the county has the maintenance contract, they slide on capital funding. I have lots of idea wrt laying out a campaign to get those needs met.)

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Here there is more access to politicos. Now that I am more visible and with my gift of gab (I just got appointed to the board of an independent park), and at a bikeway event in the fall, the mayor cycled up with her husband and I had a long talk with her--and she came up to me before my interview with city council to confirm the appointment, saying I had important experience to offer--it will be more interesting.

 
At 10:03 AM, Blogger Richard Layman said...

One thing about Navy Yard and the Wharf is that it's about prepared food and entertainment, not retail. Probably Union Market too is shifting away from food sales for subsequent cooking at home. That LA Cisecha hadn't really opened.

... and I guess the Potomac Avenue Harris Teeter closed, which is interesting.

 
At 10:05 AM, Blogger Richard Layman said...

It's hell not he'll and La Cosecha. Autocorrect (and the Google search function) seems to have really degraded.

 
At 10:08 AM, Blogger Richard Layman said...

The biggest failure of the Wharf was to not put all the motor vehicle traffic and service traffic underground. It should have been captured at the outer perimeter on Maine Avenue, keeping the surface parts car free. In the US, shared space still privileges the car.

 
At 4:04 PM, Blogger Richard Layman said...

The Wall Street Journal: Can Homes Save the Shopping Mall?, 3/31/2022

https://www.wsj.com/articles/can-homes-save-the-shopping-mall-11648725392

Unibail Rodamco Westfield, a large shopping mall company in Europe, which also owns Westfield in the US wants to do this in Europe, selling ads too.

But to do so will sell major Westfield properties in NYC and SF to raise the money for it.

 
At 6:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure. Underground parking and loading directly next to a body of water and in a flood zone would have been a perfectly viable and economical proposition.

 
At 8:18 PM, Blogger Richard Layman said...

https://tunnelingonline.com/tunneling-for-flood-protection-in-singapore/

https://www.nationalmallunderground.org/examples-precedents/

 
At 9:59 PM, Blogger Richard Layman said...

Plus the floodgates at Washington Harbor in Georgetown.

https://historicdc.com/2011/04/22/floodgate/

 

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